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#1 Dustoff1259

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 01:53 AM

I got "Back to Basics by Lopez not too long ago. I like the in depth rationale explained for the sample exam questions. Has anyone else used this book and got good results? Thanks for any replies.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 03:13 AM

I got "Back to Basics by Lopez not too long ago. I like the in depth rationale explained for the sample exam questions. Has anyone else used this book and got good results? Thanks for any replies.

Dustoff-

I have not had the pleasure of viewing that book for review of the FP-C exam. However, the book that i did purchase was Will Wingfields ACE SAT book which has some great information in it. Combine that with his video series and you should be in great shape. So far, I am seeing things that i could definatly work on and hope to take the FP-C exam by the end of the summer. Good luck to you and let me know if i can be of any more help! Be Safe!
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 03:08 PM

Thanks for the response: I have heard the ACESAT Wingfield book was good stuff. Good Luck on your exam
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:42 PM

Thanks for the response: I have heard the ACESAT Wingfield book was good stuff. Good Luck on your exam


The ACESAT book and Renee Hollerans book are really the only things you need to pass CFRN or FP-C............

I just wish Will had his book out 7 years ago when I took the exam! Being FP-C #460 makes me feel really old now!

Hell, it was still paper and pencil when i took it, and the only study guide out was the one the IAFP had made which was too short, and filled with multiple errors......Plus, back then, you had to pass with an 80% or above......Things are so much different today.........Be thankful you have so many resources at your disposal now and the test is weighted much different scoring wise......

Good Luck! Put in the time to study and you will pass it no problem!

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:45 PM

The ACESAT book and Renee Hollerans book are really the only things you need to pass CFRN or FP-C............

I just wish Will had his book out 7 years ago when I took the exam! Being FP-C #460 makes me feel really old now!

Hell, it was still paper and pencil when i took it, and the only study guide out was the one the IAFP had made which was too short, and filled with multiple errors......Plus, back then, you had to pass with an 80% or above......Things are so much different today.........Be thankful you have so many resources at your disposal now and the test is weighted much different scoring wise......

Good Luck! Put in the time to study and you will pass it no problem!

JW

I know the feeling. The only guide I had 13 years ago, was the Flight Nurse Practice and Principle, Second Edition and articles I would read from the Airmed Journal. FP-C#45...

You can see all the current crew members who have their FP-C, their FP-C number, program and expiration dates here; FP-C Honor Roll

The IAFP (aka NFPA) didn't have the study guide in print.

I like the way it's scored now compared to previous years. When I took my first test, I believe 23 or maybe 25 took it, but only 13 passed. Since then I have RE-certified with test taking (next year I'm gonna try the CEU's) and it has remained consistent with the subjects/content of questions and difficulty levels.

It is EXTREMELY convenient with computer testing; a lot more locations to choose from AND you get instant results!!!!!
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:47 PM

JWade: Thanks for your advice and account of the "earlier years". I am putting the study time in so we will see what happens when I do test. Until I do test Im ready for any advice. Although I have been "abrasive on here (FW) at times I respect the oppinions and advice of most of you on here.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 08:58 PM

JWade: Thanks for your advice and account of the "earlier years". I am putting the study time in so we will see what happens when I do test. Until I do test Im ready for any advice. Although I have been "abrasive on here (FW) at times I respect the oppinions and advice of most of you on here.



If you are putting in the time, then you'll have no issues.....

I read Hollerans book twice cover to cover, then went through the study guide, anything i struggled on, i spent additional time looking up.....things I never did in my job like Neonatal stuff, i spent more time on......

It's not rocket surgery, so, don't stress over it too much! I can't emphasize enough to get a copy of Will's ACE SAT book.....

Let me know if you have any questions,
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 01:18 PM

Hello All,

New here as you can tell. I have started studying to take my FP-C and probably take the CCP-C also when I get back to the states in June.

I got the ACE SAT book and the videos. Great information. I did find that it didn't really teach or instruct the material. I got the Renee Holleran book and am feeling much better about it now.

Also ordered Critical Care Transport by the AAOS. Takes the mail a while to get here so I haven't gotten it yet.

Jwade-- you said you went through the Holleran book and then the study guide. What study guide are you referring to?


Thank you!
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 03:00 PM

Here is a deal for you PCBguy: Why dont you tell us a little bit abot yourself nothing too personal and PM me a good email address and I will send you some material that may assist you. Let me make it clear that I have not taken the FP-C yet but will shortly. Its not my place to tell others how to study for something I havent done myself.

There is a ton of help on here. Good luck Stay safe
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 03:12 PM

Thanks Dustoff1259!!

Well I'm a Paramedic from FL. Working on a contract in the Middle East right now. Been a Paramedic for about 4 years now. Worked at a crazy busy service in the panhandle of FL for about 5 years and have been over here since last year.

Want to take my FP-C and CCP-C when I have a month off before I come back. Hope to be working on a helo by the end of the year.

Was pointed to this site from another. Everyone here seems very helpful and full of good information.

Thank you all for the inputs you give.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 11:41 PM

Hello All,

New here as you can tell. I have started studying to take my FP-C and probably take the CCP-C also when I get back to the states in June.

I got the ACE SAT book and the videos. Great information. I did find that it didn't really teach or instruct the material. I got the Renee Holleran book and am feeling much better about it now.

Also ordered Critical Care Transport by the AAOS. Takes the mail a while to get here so I haven't gotten it yet.

Jwade-- you said you went through the Holleran book and then the study guide. What study guide are you referring to?


Thank you!



When I took it 8 years ago, the IAFP had their own study guide available. However, it was full of errors and looked like a 5th grader wrote it to be honest. But, at the time, that was the ONLY thing available besides the Flight Nursing Textbook.

I don't know your background, so I apologize in advance. If you have never been exposed to Critical Care, then you might have a difficult time passing the exam if you are needing to be " Taught" everything. I say that with no malice, it's just a fact, that has been proven many times by cocky paramedics who said it was easy and then failed the exam miserably. There are people on this site who can attest to that first hand... True critical care is a far cry from your average joe blow 911 paramedic...........SO, Im not saying you won't be able to pass, but, if you need to be taught the concepts to begin with, you're going to need some more resources.....In that case, I would grab a nursing critical care textbook as well. The ACE SAT is a REVIEW course based on the premise that the majority of the people taking the FP-C / CFRN exam will have some experience in critical care, thus, he does not go into in depth teaching, but rather an extensive review.......

The benefit you guys have who are taking this test now compared to when I took it: The test is computerized now, so you find out right away your scores. The test questions are weighted, so the passing score on any given exam will be different. When I took it, you had to get an 80% or higher no matter what to pass. Now, you can get less than an 80% and still pass if you answered the tougher questions correctly.

Let me know if you have other questions or if i can help in any other way.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 12:50 AM

in conjunction w/ ACE-SAT, allow me to recommend the new AAOS CCT text... pretty decent. optional on-line question bank for same, also pretty decent. IMHO, the three are very complimentary....
if you need further resources, i maintain an ever growing web listing of dozens, if not hundreds, of absolutely free critical care clinical references, indexed by subject....
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 12:02 PM

Want to take my FP-C and CCP-C when I have a month off before I come back. Hope to be working on a helo by the end of the year.


Puttin' the cart before the horse there, huh?

Did you take the NREMTP exam before going to paramedic school, too?
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 12:54 PM

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in conjunction w/ ACE-SAT, allow me to recommend the new AAOS CCT text... pretty decent. optional on-line question bank for same, also pretty decent. IMHO, the three are very complimentary....
if you need further resources, i maintain an ever growing web listing of dozens, if not hundreds, of absolutely free critical care clinical references, indexed by subject....


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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:03 PM

love you man, but, IMHO, you're introducing a highly debatable, situationally dependent, slippery slope...

i KNOW you would not fault either enthusiasm or proactive autodidactism...

AND i am certain, you would also not advocate OJT as a sole source of educational advancement....

so, while i am reasonably certain, what you are NOT implying, i will leave it to you to specify exactly what it is that you are giving the wave off about...

(i DO have a VERY good idea what you are getting at...my goals with this post are that we do not cut a bright mind off at the knees, and we DO allow the voices of experience to provide appropriate caveats...i just do not presume to speak to your particular caveats....)

Puttin' the cart before the horse there, huh?

Did you take the NREMTP exam before going to paramedic school, too?


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Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:45 PM

love you man, but, IMHO, you're introducing a highly debatable, situationally dependent, slippery slope...

i KNOW you would not fault either enthusiasm or proactive autodidactism...

AND i am certain, you would also not advocate OJT as a sole source of educational advancement....

so, while i am reasonably certain, what you are NOT implying, i will leave it to you to specify exactly what it is that you are giving the wave off about...

(i DO have a VERY good idea what you are getting at...my goals with this post are that we do not cut a bright mind off at the knees, and we DO allow the voices of experience to provide appropriate caveats...i just do not presume to speak to your particular caveats....)


Of course I don't fault enthusiasm or autodidactic activity. Putting forth effort to independently learn as much as one can in preparation for a new role shows motivation and initiative and intelligence. Self-study as part of the pursuit of self-improvement is a good thing; something we in fact need more of, I would argue.

However, that is quite different than obtaining a credential in a specialty that one has proven no competence in.

In all seriousness, if it's OK for a paramedic (or a RN) to be "certified" as a flight specialist without having obtained any formal training or experience or even a undergone simulated demonstration of competency in the role, then why aren't MD's allowed to write their boards before completing their residencies? Why don't RN's take the NCLEX before they finish school? I these aren't technically accurate comparisons, but I think they make the point.

To put it another way: when you literally have people walking around as "certified flight paramedics" when they've never done a "flight" in their life, then in all honesty, what good is the credential? Does it mean at all what it's intended to mean?


Of course, it's not pcbguy's fault that these credentialing processes are so lacking. He's just trying to learn and break into the field. I do appreciate his position and his enthusiasm.

Welcome to FW, pcbguy. I've been doing this for a few minutes if I can help you out at all. I'm a little jaded and cynical sometimes but never intentionally bellicose; if my post came off that way I apologize. I still enjoy doing this and I'm more than willing to offer advice or assistance.

Here's a tip: don't pay any attention to that jwade guy....he doesn't know nearly as much as he thinks he does B)

Thanks for providing me the opportunity to clarify, Sean.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:46 PM

love you long time, man.... as always, thanks for the multiple unquestionably value added contributions in your above post! always a pleasure and a privilege to benefit from your perspective.... out of beer at the moment, (SACRILEGE!, poor ORM....PPPPPP!) but lifting a glass of cabernet in your general direction...
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:42 PM

Of course I don't fault enthusiasm or autodidactic activity. Putting forth effort to independently learn as much as one can in preparation for a new role shows motivation and initiative and intelligence. Self-study as part of the pursuit of self-improvement is a good thing; something we in fact need more of, I would argue.

However, that is quite different than obtaining a credential in a specialty that one has proven no competence in.

In all seriousness, if it's OK for a paramedic (or a RN) to be "certified" as a flight specialist without having obtained any formal training or experience or even a undergone simulated demonstration of competency in the role, then why aren't MD's allowed to write their boards before completing their residencies? Why don't RN's take the NCLEX before they finish school? I these aren't technically accurate comparisons, but I think they make the point.

To put it another way: when you literally have people walking around as "certified flight paramedics" when they've never done a "flight" in their life, then in all honesty, what good is the credential? Does it mean at all what it's intended to mean?


Of course, it's not pcbguy's fault that these credentialing processes are so lacking. He's just trying to learn and break into the field. I do appreciate his position and his enthusiasm.

Welcome to FW, pcbguy. I've been doing this for a few minutes if I can help you out at all. I'm a little jaded and cynical sometimes but never intentionally bellicose; if my post came off that way I apologize. I still enjoy doing this and I'm more than willing to offer advice or assistance.

Here's a tip: don't pay any attention to that jwade guy....he doesn't know nearly as much as he thinks he does B)

Thanks for providing me the opportunity to clarify, Sean.


Here in northwest Fl where I am, having a FP-C certification before applying for your first flight job gives you a leg up as far as applying for some flight companies goes. No it does not make up for time in field experience, but it is very favorably looked upon when applying. At least that is my experience with it.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:18 PM

Of course I don't fault enthusiasm or autodidactic activity. Putting forth effort to independently learn as much as one can in preparation for a new role shows motivation and initiative and intelligence. Self-study as part of the pursuit of self-improvement is a good thing; something we in fact need more of, I would argue.

However, that is quite different than obtaining a credential in a specialty that one has proven no competence in.

In all seriousness, if it's OK for a paramedic (or a RN) to be "certified" as a flight specialist without having obtained any formal training or experience or even a undergone simulated demonstration of competency in the role, then why aren't MD's allowed to write their boards before completing their residencies? Why don't RN's take the NCLEX before they finish school? I these aren't technically accurate comparisons, but I think they make the point.

To put it another way: when you literally have people walking around as "certified flight paramedics" when they've never done a "flight" in their life, then in all honesty, what good is the credential? Does it mean at all what it's intended to mean?


Of course, it's not pcbguy's fault that these credentialing processes are so lacking. He's just trying to learn and break into the field. I do appreciate his position and his enthusiasm.

Welcome to FW, pcbguy. I've been doing this for a few minutes if I can help you out at all. I'm a little jaded and cynical sometimes but never intentionally bellicose; if my post came off that way I apologize. I still enjoy doing this and I'm more than willing to offer advice or assistance.

Here's a tip: don't pay any attention to that jwade guy....he doesn't know nearly as much as he thinks he does B)

Thanks for providing me the opportunity to clarify, Sean.



Did you need a thesauras for that big word? ;)

Old school and I have both been around the block, been there done that........Some people may take us at times as being jaded and burned out, but, I left flying before I got burned out because I knew I was on the path........I don't regret my decision at all.........Learn as much as you can from everyone, BUT, whatever you do, LEAD.....DO NOT be a follower........That will get you killed in this business.......

Let us know if you need any help!

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 03:41 PM

Will's books is certainly the gold standard according to the consensus around here. Orchid's book is not without it's merits. Her book offers in depth explanations and rational for every question, just as does Will's book. I have both and a buddy who just took the exam said that both books helped him out a lot. If you don't mind spending the money on both, they are both great resources.
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