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We have clarified the facts, and yes, it is an imposed limitation on the =
pad's permit. The permit limits the length of the a/c that can land on =
the trauma center's helipad. What I am wondering is if anyone else out =
there is mandated to use an off-site landing zone to access a trauma =
center? And, if so, have you studied outcomes...?
Thanx.
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Subject: Flightmed digest, Vol 1 #371 - 38 msgs
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Today's Topics:
1. Re:online PALS / ACLS recert (AirWolfMedic@aol.com)
2. Re:online PALS / ACLS recert (Lawrence G. Mester)
3. Re:Flightmed digest, Vol 1 #370 - 44 msgs (CCTNLT@aol.com)
4. Re:Flightmed digest, Vol 1 #370 - 44 msgs (RONALD JOHNSON)
5. Re:online PALS / ACLS recert (AirWolfMedic@aol.com)
6. November 18th MERGINET.News (Richard Bilger)
7. Accountability (medicwest@shaw.ca)
8. Re:Accountability (Ken Lawson-Williams)
9. Re:AMTC 2002 CD (Akgrn@aol.com)
10. Re:AMTC 2002 CD (RONALD JOHNSON)
11. Re:AMTC 2002 CD (Akgrn@aol.com)
12. RE:AMTC 2002 CD (Michael Lummus)
13. Re:AMTC 2002 CD (Akgrn@aol.com)
14. BiPAP (Medic2069@aol.com)
15. RE:AMTC 2002 CD (RONALD JOHNSON)
16. Aneursyms (Kinning, John A)
17. 24 hour shifts and fatiuge (ZeusLF2@aol.com)
18. Re:24 hour shifts and fatiuge (susan nittinger)
19. Down Time (AirWolfMedic@aol.com)
20. Re:24 hour shifts and fatiuge (AirWolfMedic@aol.com)
21. RE: Aneursyms (Sherry, Scott)
22. mailing list (ThomasCYou@aol.com)
23. Re:Down Time (Medic2069@aol.com)
24. Off Site Landings (Jennifer Hardcastle)
25. Re:Off Site Landings (Eric Niegelberg [Emergency Medicine])
26. Re:Off Site Landings (MSULDO@aol.com)
27. Re:Off Site Landings (Helodoc@aol.com)
28. RE:Off Site Landings (Summers, David)
29. Re:Off Site Landings (MarciaCase@aol.com)
30. Re:Off Site Landings (Helodoc@aol.com)
31. Re:ATLS BOOK WANTED (Mr. Clancy)
32. RE:Off Site Landings / NYC (Mark Frederick)
33. Re:Off Site Landings / NYC (MarciaCase@aol.com)
34. Re:Off Site Landings / NYC (RONALD JOHNSON)
35. Re:Off Site Landings / NYC (Nrempt@aol.com)
36. MERGINET.News: December 3rd Edition Now Online! (Richard Bilger)
37. Chief Flight Nurse/Paramedic Job Description (Uncferret@aol.com)
38. Flight Physiology (Wildmedic17@aol.com)
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Message: 1
From: AirWolfMedic@aol.com
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 23:13:21 EST
Subject: Re: online PALS / ACLS recert
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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have you tried the embbs site?=20
Remember, teamwork is important. It gives the enemy somebody else to =
shoot=20
at.
Gregory B. Wolf
302 Church St.
P.O. Box 755
Collinsville, TX 76233
Hm. 903.429.8602
Wk. 903.870.3631
Pgr. 903.358.0925
Cell 903.436.9208
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<HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D2 =
FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">have you tried the =
embbs site? <BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#004000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" =
SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Remember, =
teamwork is important. It gives the enemy somebody else to shoot =
at.<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" =
SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Gregory B. =
Wolf<BR>
302 Church St.<BR>
P.O. Box 755<BR>
Collinsville, TX 76233<BR>
Hm. 903.429.8602<BR>
Wk. 903.870.3631<BR>
Pgr. 903.358.0925<BR>
Cell 903.436.9208</FONT></HTML>
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Message: 2
Date: 17 Nov 2002 23:19:12 EST
From: Lawrence.G.Mester@Hitchcock.ORG (Lawrence G. Mester)
Subject: Re: online PALS / ACLS recert
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
--- You wrote:
have you tried the embbs site?=3D20
--- end of quote ---
nope, what is that? embbs.com?
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Larry "Lars" Mester, REMT-P, CMTE
Flight Paramedic
The DHART Program
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:07:15 -0500
From: CCTNLT@aol.com
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Subject: Re: Flightmed digest, Vol 1 #370 - 44 msgs
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Re: Physical Fitness Testing:
I should clarify what we do in our present test: I will quote directly =
from our Policy manual:
The course will be flat. A track of known distance is recommended but =
not required. Team members will complete the course wearing approved =
footwear. Type of clothing is not dictated. Team member will, when told =
to start by the proctor run or walk 0.5 mile, immediately pick up one =
end of a backboard loaded with 150 lbs and move the board to a =
desiganted spot 20 yards away. Immediately on completion of the move the =
teammember will don a backpack with 25 lbs of weight and pick up an =
additional hand carried weight of 20 lbs and move unassisted for an =
additional distance of .25 miles. The total distance is .75 mile and the =
alloted time for "pass" is 11 minutes regardless of age or sex"
AGain, any input the members of this web can provide will be greatly =
appreciated as we attempt to create a more "job" based test.=20
Larry Tucker, RN
Duke Life FLight
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Message: 4
From: "RONALD JOHNSON" <rjohnson_fn@msn.com>
To: <flightmed@flightweb.com>
Subject: Re: Flightmed digest, Vol 1 #370 - 44 msgs
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:02:26 -0700
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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The big thing is any test must not violate the Americans With =
Disabilitie=3D
s act. I worked in ems a few year back we had to quit doing our test =
beca=3D
use it did violate this law.
rj
----- Original Message -----
From: CCTNLT@aol.com
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 8:44 AM
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Subject: Re: Flightmed digest, Vol 1 #370 - 44 msgs
Re: Physical Fitness Testing:
I should clarify what we do in our present test: I will quote directly =
fr=3D
om our Policy manual:
The course will be flat. A track of known distance is recommended but =
not=3D
required. Team members will complete the course wearing approved =
footwea=3D
r. Type of clothing is not dictated. Team member will, when told to =
star=3D
t by the proctor run or walk 0.5 mile, immediately pick up one end of a =
b=3D
ackboard loaded with 150 lbs and move the board to a desiganted spot 20 =
y=3D
ards away. Immediately on completion of the move the teammember will don =
=3D
a backpack with 25 lbs of weight and pick up an additional hand carried =
w=3D
eight of 20 lbs and move unassisted for an additional distance of .25 =
mil=3D
es. The total distance is .75 mile and the alloted time for "pass" is 11 =
=3D
minutes regardless of age or sex"
AGain, any input the members of this web can provide will be greatly =
appr=3D
eciated as we attempt to create a more "job" based test. =3D20
Larry Tucker, RN
Duke Life FLight
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V>Re: Physical Fitness Testing:<BR><BR>I should clarify what we do in =
our=3D
present test: I will quote directly from our Policy manual:<BR><BR>The =
c=3D
ourse will be flat. A track of known distance is recommended but not =
requ=3D
ired. Team members will complete the course wearing approved footwear. =
Ty=3D
pe of clothing is not dictated. Team member will, when told to =
star=3D
t by the proctor run or walk 0.5 mile, immediately pick up one end of a =
b=3D
ackboard loaded with 150 lbs and move the board to a desiganted spot 20 =
y=3D
ards away. Immediately on completion of the move the teammember will don =
=3D
a backpack with 25 lbs of weight and pick up an additional hand carried =
w=3D
eight of 20 lbs and move unassisted for an additional distance of .25 =
mil=3D
es. The total distance is .75 mile and the alloted time for "pass" is 11 =
=3D
minutes regardless of age or sex"<BR><BR>AGain, any input the members of =
=3D
this web can provide will be greatly appreciated as we attempt to create =
=3D
a more "job" based test. <BR><BR>Larry Tucker, RN<BR>Duke Life =
FLight<BR>=3D
<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Flightmed =
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Message: 5
From: AirWolfMedic@aol.com
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 12:37:49 EST
Subject: Re: online PALS / ACLS recert
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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It's <A HREF=3D"www.embbs.com">www.embbs.com</A>. This is a very =
informative site with ECG's, pediatric=20
and adult megacode practice. Think it stands for Emergency Medicine =
Buletin=20
Board something-or-other.
Remember, teamwork is important. It gives the enemy somebody else to =
shoot=20
at.
Gregory B. Wolf
302 Church St.
P.O. Box 755
Collinsville, TX 76233
Hm. 903.429.8602
Wk. 903.870.3631
Pgr. 903.358.0925
Cell 903.436.9208
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<HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D2 =
FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">It's <A =
HREF=3D"www.embbs.com">www.embbs.com</A></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" =
style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" =
FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">. This is a very informative =
site with ECG's, pediatric and adult megacode practice. Think it =
stands for Emergency Medicine Buletin Board something-or-other.<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#004000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" =
SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Remember, =
teamwork is important. It gives the enemy somebody else to shoot =
at.<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" =
SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Gregory B. =
Wolf<BR>
302 Church St.<BR>
P.O. Box 755<BR>
Collinsville, TX 76233<BR>
Hm. 903.429.8602<BR>
Wk. 903.870.3631<BR>
Pgr. 903.358.0925<BR>
Cell 903.436.9208</FONT></HTML>
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Message: 6
From: "Richard Bilger" <rbilger@merginet.com>
To: "Air Medical" <flightmed@flightweb.com>
Subject: November 18th MERGINET.News
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:38:36 -0600
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
We're pleased to bring you the latest additions to
MERGINET.News (November 2002 Vol. 7, No. 11).
You can view this issue online at:
http://www.MERGINET.com/emsnewstocs/current.shtml/
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>From the Editors
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It's time for the November 18th release of MERGINET.News, now online.
With this issue, we acknowledge the great American tradition of
Thanksgiving; we asked a cornucopia of people to introduce us to their
mentors and tell their story-and what an outpouring! That, along with
Straight Talk #66: "Uneven Pathways," appears in our In Touch section.
Joining them is another piece, "In His Own Words: Can't We Do Better?" =
by
former firefighter and computer whiz Tom Boyd, which will really make =
you
think. Please send your comments on that one-just click on Reader =
Feedback
at the end of it (and any other article) to let us know your point of =
view.
In On the Scene, you'll find an article about the valuable first =
responders
known as the ski patrol, by Keith Wesley, MD. Also in On the Scene, we =
look
at an interesting initiative in the interests of homeland security-a new
biosurveillance system that can provide early warning for stealth
bioterrorist or chemical attacks, as well as other trends. Called the
FirstWatch (tm) system, it's being beta tested in Richmond, Virginia. =
Our
NAED column also addresses homeland security, but from the dispatch =
point of
view.
Among our columnists, Dick Clinchy has a review of the Brittany Board. =
Don
Hunjadi writes about "Setting the Standard." Our infection control =
column by
Karen Thurlow offers a very informative article about rabies. And Don
Wetmore has some tips on how to minimize unwanted mail (both postal and
electronic).
As always, we encourage your reader feedback. It's easy! Just click the
"Reader Feedback" button at the end of each article, type in your =
thoughts,
and they will go to the author, the editor, and the publisher. We reply =
to
everyone who writes to us as promptly as possible. Welcome to the =
November
18th MERGINET.News!
Warm regards,
Kate Dernocoeur, Editor
Laura Bennett-Kimble, Managing Editor
New in this issue!
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On the Scene
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>> Richmond Ambulance Authority Installs a New Biosurveillance System
by Shannon Jackson
The FirstWatch(tm) biosurveillance system uses real-time information =
culled
from 9-1-1 calls to detect trends indicating the possible outbreak of
disease, illness, or patterns of injury either from natural causes or =
acts
of terrorism.
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/359_Shannon_Jackson_20020711.shtml
>> EMD from a Homeland Security Perspective
by Robert Martin
One sure-fire way to increase homeland security and ensure the =
availability
of immediate patient care is to provide targeted training for 9-1-1
communication center personnel.
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/355_Robert_Martin_20020711.shtml
>> Ski Patrol: Another First Responder
by Keith Wesley
The National Ski Patrol's Outdoor Emergency Care Course is required of =
all
members who provide emergency care on ski hills throughout America, =
Canada,
and Europe.
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/354_Keith_Wesley_20020711.shtml
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In Touch
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>> STRAIGHT TALK 66: Uneven Pathways
by Kate Dernocoeur
Emergency responders bravely go where most others in the civilized world
would rather not.
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/361_Kate_Dernocoeur_20020711.shtml
>> Thanking Those Who Made a Difference
by Kate Dernocoeur
It's time to give thanks for the mentors who have helped to shape EMS.
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/363_Kate_Dernocoeur_20020711.shtml
>> In His Own Words: Can't We Do Better?
by Tom Boyd
A reader offers his thoughts on how the Internet can be used in the
aftermath of catastrophic events.
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/360_Tom_Boyd_20020711.shtml
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Education Station
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>> Rabies: What You Need to Know
by Karen Thurlow
Worldwide, an estimated 35,000-40,000 deaths are caused by rabies each =
year,
almost all in developing countries.
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/362_Karen_Thurlow_20020711.shtml
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Reviewers Roundup
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>> EMS TOYS: A Backboard with a New Twist: The Brittany Board
by Dick Clinchy
Looking for a new backboard? Read on.
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/357_Dick_Clinchy_20020711.shtml
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Management Matters
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>> Setting the Standard
by Don Hunjadi
Do your service members know what your standards are? Or do they just =
sort
of "know" what is required of them?
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/358_Don_Hunjadi_20020711.shtml
>> Reduce the Flow of Unwanted Communications
by Donald E. Wetmore
Unwanted communications, whether they arrive in your mailbox, by =
telephone,
or through your email in-box, are rarely welcome.
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/356_Donald_E._Wetmore_20020711.shtml=
More online!
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MERGINET.News Online!
Click here: http://www.MERGINET.com/emsnewstocs/current.shtml/
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MERGINET is a service designed to provide resources, news, education and
fun to the all in EMS, Fire, Rescue and Emergency Medicine. Updated =
daily.
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MERGINET.com
http://www.MERGINET.com
mailto:Editor@MERGINET.com
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:38:56 -0800
From: medicwest@shaw.ca
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Subject: Accountability
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
During this time of review and restructuring continued questions come up =
regarding scene flights. This weeks question is one regarding =
inappropriate responses. As our current protocols stand, it is almost =
impossible to respond to an inappropriate flight. This is based on the =
SOP regarding physiological findings with the patient by ground EMS =
prior to launching. Of course even with this in place we have the odd =
flight where the patient could have gone by ground. As we look at being =
a little more responsive to our outlying ground units needs, I was =
wondering if many programs find themselves responding to agencies on a =
varying degree of frequency for patients not requiring air transport. =
If this happens how does your program address this scenario if at all? =
Additional ground information sessions, ridealongs, medical director =
involvement? Any responses are appreciated and I thank everyone who has =
responded to my various queries over the last little while.
Fly safe
Randy L'Heureux
Ambulance Paramedics of British Columbia
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 17:03:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Ken Lawson-Williams <Macgyver@FlightMedicMail.com>
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Subject: Re: Accountability
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Same same, and getting worse.
ALBERTA: Flights come out of provincial budget, ground trips paid by =
patient or if a transfer, by sending facility. So flights get called if =
pt unwilling/unable to pay and current provider unwilling to let pt walk =
away untreated but will stay and agree to a free transport. Flight =
called, dispatch here NOT street experienced or flight experienced so =
authorise. At that point, no choice but to go fly. Sometimes time from =
pt transport decision to pt i recieving hospital could be 60 minutes =
ground, but 2 hrs by air.
NWT/Nunavut: No choice, no other option (few if any roads and ground =
times of 4++ hrs one-way (and strips sending of ALS capabilities) vs 2 =
hours total by air.
Fly Safe.=20
Ken L-W CCEMT-P/WMT
Duct tape is like the force, it has a light side and a dark side, and it =
holds the universe together.
--- medicwest@shaw.ca wrote:
>During this time of review and restructuring continued questions come =
up regarding scene flights. This weeks question is one regarding =
inappropriate responses. As our current protocols stand, it is almost =
impossible to respond to an inappropriate flight. This is based on the =
SOP regarding physiological findings with the patient by ground EMS =
prior to launching. Of course even with this in place we have the odd =
flight where the patient could have gone by ground. As we look at being =
a little more responsive to our outlying ground units needs, I was =
wondering if many programs find themselves responding to agencies on a =
varying degree of frequency for patients not requiring air transport. =
If this happens how does your program address this scenario if at all? =
Additional ground information sessions, ridealongs, medical director =
involvement? Any responses are appreciated and I thank everyone who has =
responded to my various queries over the last little while.
>Fly safe
>Randy L'Heureux
>Ambulance Paramedics of British Columbia
>
>
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Message: 9
From: Akgrn@aol.com
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 12:04:58 EST
Subject: Re: AMTC 2002 CD
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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This is a neat idea and the conference staff is willig to investigate =
having=20
the syllabus available for the PDA - has anyone been to a conference =
where=20
this happened, if so please email me and let me know what format it was =
in=20
and what you thought of it.
thanks
Angie Golden
Chair, Education Committee AMTC 2003
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<HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" =
FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">This is a neat idea and the conference staff =
is willig to investigate having the syllabus available for the PDA - has =
anyone been to a conference where this happened, if so please email me =
and let me know what format it was in and what you thought of it.<BR>
<BR>
thanks<BR>
<BR>
Angie Golden<BR>
Chair, Education Committee AMTC 2003</FONT></HTML>
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Message: 10
From: "RONALD JOHNSON" <rjohnson_fn@msn.com>
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Subject: Re: AMTC 2002 CD
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:35:50 +0000
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Angie,
I had the idea as i have a PDA, i know that both Palm based and Windows=20
based both have software that can use documents in the .DOC format, =
which is=20
what WORD save files as.
rj
>From: Akgrn@aol.com
>Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
>To: flightmed@flightweb.com
>Subject: Re: AMTC 2002 CD
>Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 12:04:58 EST
>
>This is a neat idea and the conference staff is willig to investigate=20
>having
>the syllabus available for the PDA - has anyone been to a conference =
where
>this happened, if so please email me and let me know what format it was =
in
>and what you thought of it.
>
>thanks
>
>Angie Golden
>Chair, Education Committee AMTC 2003
_________________________________________________________________
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Message: 11
From: Akgrn@aol.com
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:48:36 EST
Subject: Re: AMTC 2002 CD
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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Okay thanks - I will continue to get information and pass it on to the=20
conference planners.
Angie Golden
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FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Okay thanks - I will continue to get =
information and pass it on to the conference planners.<BR>
<BR>
Angie Golden</FONT></HTML>
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Message: 12
From: "Michael Lummus" <impavidu@sbcglobal.net>
To: <flightmed@flightweb.com>
Subject: RE: AMTC 2002 CD
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:59:06 -0600
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
The program "Documents to Go" will save Word or Excel files onto a PDA =
in
viewable format. We have all of our flight protocols on that system. =
Works
great.
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Message: 13
From: Akgrn@aol.com
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 19:15:15 EST
Subject: Re: AMTC 2002 CD
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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thanks for the info
Angie Golden
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<HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" =
FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">thanks for the info<BR>
<BR>
Angie Golden</FONT></HTML>
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Message: 14
From: Medic2069@aol.com
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 19:48:24 EST
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Subject: BiPAP
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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Dave,
We use CPAP on the ground ALS unit where I work per diem. Off the top =
of my=20
head I believe its called "Whisper Flow," made my Cardynamics. Its not =
that=20
expensive, (approx. $25/pack) and runs off an oxygen source. We start =
off=20
with 23% Oxygen (its lowest setting) and titrate for effect, utilizing =
SPO2=20
as our parameter. If using 100% O2, it goes through an "E" tank in =
about 3-5=20
mins. But most of the patients we use it on are failures and we give =
for the=20
pressure. There is also another port for O2 supply tubing and an in =
line neb=20
can be utilized. If you want I can find out more information. Just let =
me=20
know, hope this helps.=20
Anthony N. Cascio
Paramedic
Lake Hiawatha, NJ USA
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<HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" =
FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Dave,<BR>
We use CPAP on the ground ALS unit where I work per diem. Off the =
top of my head I believe its called "Whisper Flow," made my =
Cardynamics. Its not that expensive, (approx. $25/pack) and runs =
off an oxygen source. We start off with 23% Oxygen (its lowest =
setting) and titrate for effect, utilizing SPO2 as our parameter. =
If using 100% O2, it goes through an "E" tank in about 3-5 mins. =
But most of the patients we use it on are failures and we give for the =
pressure. There is also another port for O2 supply tubing and an =
in line neb can be utilized. If you want I can find out more =
information. Just let me know, hope this helps. <BR>
<BR>
Anthony N. Cascio<BR>
Paramedic<BR>
Lake Hiawatha, NJ </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff" =
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Message: 15
From: "RONALD JOHNSON" <rjohnson_fn@msn.com>
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Subject: RE: AMTC 2002 CD
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 04:35:17 +0000
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
I was thinking of a format that would work for both systems ie palm and=20
pocketpc.
>From: "Michael Lummus" <impavidu@sbcglobal.net>
>Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
>To: <flightmed@flightweb.com>
>Subject: RE: AMTC 2002 CD
>Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:59:06 -0600
>
>The program "Documents to Go" will save Word or Excel files onto a PDA =
in
>viewable format. We have all of our flight protocols on that system. =20
>Works
>great.
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Flightmed mailing list
>To unsubscribe or change your email address, go to=20
>http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/flightmed
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Message: 16
From: "Kinning, John A" <KinningJ@stjosephs-marshfield.org>
To: "'flightmed@flightweb.com'" <flightmed@flightweb.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 08:30:04 -0600
Subject: Aneursyms
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Request for information,
Regarding pts with a known aneurysm, is there any current data that =
shows
the risk/benefit of a "hot" vs. "cold" off load. any help or =
information
would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to all and fly safe.
John K.
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 13:33:49 -0500
From: ZeusLF2@aol.com
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Subject: 24 hour shifts and fatiuge
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
I was wondering what other programs due with there 24 hr bases that are =
maxed with flights and tired. What kind of plan due other programs have =
in place to back these bases up.
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 14:53:22 -0800 (PST)
From: susan nittinger <suziqfly@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 24 hour shifts and fatiuge
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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I know I may have said this before, but we will usually see if one of =
our other bases can cover if we are too fatigued. Example: My partner =
was coming down with a URI. We were getting toned for our 6th flight at =
0800. We had been on since 0700 the previous morning. We had our =
Lexington A/C take the flight since the pt was still waiting for a =
receiving bed. It worked out perfectly. The other crew had the pt =
assessed by the time they got a bed. Otherwise, a call to management for =
advisement on the situation would have occurred. Hope this helps.....
Sue Toberman, RN
KY LifeNet
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<P>
<P> I know I may have said this before, but we will usually see if =
one of our other bases can cover if we are too fatigued. Example: My =
partner was coming down with a URI. We were getting toned for our 6th =
flight at 0800. We had been on since 0700 the previous morning. We had =
our Lexington A/C take the flight since the pt was still waiting for a =
receiving bed. It worked out perfectly. The other crew had the pt =
assessed by the time they got a bed. Otherwise, a call to management for =
advisement on the situation would have occurred. Hope this helps.....
<P>Sue Toberman, RN
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Message: 19
From: AirWolfMedic@aol.com
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:37:19 EST
Subject: Down Time
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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I am curious how flight crews based at hospitals are utilized during =
down=20
time. I am sure, like us, most are called for difficult IV sticks,=20
in-hospital codes, level I traumas, and other in-house emergencies. But =
how=20
many are required to spend a specific amount of time each shift in the =
ER,=20
ICU, or other areas? Any light you all can shed on this is appreciated. =
=20
Thanks,
Greg Wolf, CC-LP
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FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">I am curious how =
flight crews based at hospitals are utilized during down time. I =
am sure, like us, most are called for difficult IV sticks, in-hospital =
codes, level I traumas, and other in-house emergencies. But how =
many are required to spend a specific amount of time each shift in the =
ER, ICU, or other areas? Any light you all can shed on this is =
appreciated. <BR>
<BR>
Thanks,<BR>
Greg Wolf, CC-LP</FONT></HTML>
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Message: 20
From: AirWolfMedic@aol.com
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:41:22 EST
Subject: Re: 24 hour shifts and fatiuge
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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At our base CRM is an important part of our daily operation. If one =
member=20
of the team is fatigued for whatever reason, we will defer the flight. =
We do=20
however keep close tabs on each other and will call someone in to cover =
so we=20
don't have to turn any down due to fatigue.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" =
FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">At our base CRM is an important part =
of our daily operation. If one member of the team is fatigued for =
whatever reason, we will defer the flight. We do however keep =
close tabs on each other and will call someone in to cover so we don't =
have to turn any down due to fatigue.</FONT></HTML>
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Message: 21
Subject: RE: Aneursyms
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:56:14 -0500
From: "Sherry, Scott" <SSherry@statmedevac.com>
To: <flightmed@flightweb.com>
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Not sure about any outcome based information regarding this, but just =
=3D
look at it from the standpoint of time. If you are flying a person with =
=3D
an aneurysm, literally every minute counts. Depending on the aircraft =
=3D
you are flying in, waiting to do a cold off load could mean wasting =3D
another 2, 3, 4 minutes. My question is, why wait? Most times if you =
=3D
explain what is going to happen to the patient and tell them what to =3D
expect during a hot off load, they do just fine. Our program does all =
=3D
evolutions of patient loading and off loading hot and it does save time. =
=3D
Granted, it may only be 2-3 minutes, but add that up for every leg of =
=3D
the flight (off load of equipment going to the patient, hot loading the =
=3D
patient, hot off loading the patient) and that adds up quickly. Unless =
=3D
there is a safety concern at the helipad, there is no reason to waste =
=3D
the time doing everything cold. Hot operations is safe to do if =3D
everyone on your team is well briefed and knows exactly what his/her =3D
role is. Air medical services exist to get critical patients from point =
=3D
A to point B as quickly as possible. I feel that wasting time doing =3D
cold evolutions when it isn't absolutely necessary is simply =3D
irresponsible.
_______________________________
Scott C. Sherry
STAT MedEvac
Pittsburgh, PA
MedEvac 6 - Clarion Base
www.STATMedEvac.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Kinning, John A [mailto:KinningJ@stjosephs-marshfield.org]
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 9:30 AM
To: 'flightmed@flightweb.com'
Subject: Aneursyms
Request for information,
Regarding pts with a known aneurysm, is there any current data that =3D
shows
the risk/benefit of a "hot" vs. "cold" off load. any help or =3D
information
would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to all and fly safe.
John K.
_______________________________________________
Flightmed mailing list
To unsubscribe or change your email address, go to =3D
http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/flightmed
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Message: 22
From: ThomasCYou@aol.com
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 17:41:01 EST
Subject: mailing list
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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Please post thomascyou@aol.com to the mailing list.
Thank you,
Tom Young
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<BR>
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<BR>
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Message: 23
From: Medic2069@aol.com
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 07:48:38 EST
Subject: Re: Down Time
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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Greg,
Likewise, we too are called for the difficult IVs, traumas coming in by=20
ground or other aeromedical services. As far as spending time in a =
unit, we=20
go over to the ER when they get busy. Our manager also oversees the ED =
and=20
in-house critical care transport team, so we have a good idea of when =
they=20
need the help. Its also a two way street, b/c the ER is more likely to =
call=20
us when an intubation needs to be done so we can come over to do it. =
That=20
helps us b/c we have a quota for quarterly intubations to maintain =
skills.
Anthony N. Cascio
Flight Paramedic
Lake Hiawatha, NJ USA
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<HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" =
FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Greg,<BR>
<BR>
Likewise, we too are called for the difficult IVs, traumas coming in by =
ground or other aeromedical services. As far as spending time in a =
unit, we go over to the ER when they get busy. Our manager also =
oversees the ED and in-house critical care transport team, so we have a =
good idea of when they need the help. Its also a two way street, =
b/c the ER is more likely to call us when an intubation needs to be done =
so we can come over to do it. That helps us b/c we have a quota =
for quarterly intubations to maintain skills.<BR>
<BR>
Anthony N. Cascio<BR>
Flight Paramedic<BR>
Lake Hiawatha, NJ </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff" =
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Message: 24
Subject: Off Site Landings
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:20:22 -0800
From: "Jennifer Hardcastle" <jennifer_hardcastle@mediplane.com>
To: <flightmed@flightweb.com>
Cc: "Gary Mccalla" <gary_mccalla@mediplane.com>,
"Sean Russell" <sean_russell@mediplane.com>
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
We have a brewing issue in our service area wherein the level II and =
=3D
level III Trauma Center helipads have an a/c length restriction. The =3D
restriction directly affects one major provider of air medical service =
=3D
in our service area and a couple of "back up" providers, i.e., back up =
=3D
aircraft utilized by a primary provider and/or BLS Air rescue a/c =3D
operated by public agencies. =3D20
While a very complex issue generating much speculation and frustration =
=3D
is at hand, I thought I would check with you all to see if anyone is in =
=3D
a similar situation. Is anyone out there successfully, or not so =3D
successfully utilizing an off-site landing area to access Trauma Centers =
=3D
for scene response patients meeting trauma center criteria? If so, have =
=3D
you studied the effects, positive or negative?
Jennifer Hardcastle, RN
Director of Clinical Services and Program Development
REACH Air Ambulance
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Message: 25
From: "Eric Niegelberg [Emergency Medicine]" =
<eniegelb@epo.hsc.sunysb.edu>
Organization: SUNY Stony Brook
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:13:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Off Site Landings
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
I would raise one question; We fly with our County Police
Department, obviously a public service agency. The pilot in command=20
is 100% responsible for determining the safe LZ that he/she is going=20
to use. As a public service agency they can land anyplace they want,=20
this is convenient when we fly into NYC Central Park as only the=20
Police can land in the park vs. flying into a field in NJ. With this=20
in mind how is it determined that the hospital can "regulate" which=20
aircraft can land there? If they do that can they also regulate when=20
a helicopter can land such as "it is too windy today, don't land"?
> Subject: Off Site Landings
> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:20:22 -0800
> From: "Jennifer Hardcastle" =
<jennifer_hardcastle@mediplane.com>
> To: <flightmed@flightweb.com>
> Cc: "Gary Mccalla" <gary_mccalla@mediplane.com>,
> "Sean Russell" <sean_russell@mediplane.com>
> Reply-to: flightmed@flightweb.com
> We have a brewing issue in our service area wherein the level II and =
level III Trauma Center helipads have an a/c length restriction. The =
restriction directly affects one major provider of air medic> While a =
very complex issue generating much speculation and frustration is at =
hand, I thought I would check with you all to see if anyone is in a =
similar situation. Is anyone out there successfully>=20
>=20
>=20
> Jennifer Hardcastle, RN
> Director of Clinical Services and Program Development
> REACH Air Ambulance
>=20
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> _______________________________________________
> Flightmed mailing list
> To unsubscribe or change your email address, go to =
http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/flightmed
>=20
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Eric Niegelberg Tel: 631-444-2496
EMS Director Fax: 631-689-7376
Emergency Department Administrator
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Message: 26
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:43:23 -0500
From: MSULDO@aol.com
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Subject: Re: Off Site Landings
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
It could be a blade clearence issue. There are some definite guidelines =
(company ops manual) or recomendations (FAA heliport design guide) on =
how close you can get to a building/object with the blades. While =
working with many providers, they all had areas near hospitals to land, =
especially if the hospital didn't have a helioprt, as many do not. These =
are pre-approved, inspected for hazards, and permission is gotten to use =
them. They may be on hospital grounds or things like open areas, sports =
fields, or such located a short distance away. Worst case - lots of =
towns have airports which lend themselves to use. Ground transport then =
becomes an issue. Do you have a dedicated ambulance or unit to cover =
that distance? What is the impact of the patient on multiple =
loadings/unloadings?
And I think the answer is "yes", the hospital can obviousily regulate =
who lands there and when. Remember airports can close because of weather =
conditions - why should a hospital pad be different?
Safety first
Mike Suldo EMS WannaBe
Safety First!
Mike Suldo
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Message: 27
From: Helodoc@aol.com
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:50:56 EST
Subject: Re: Off Site Landings
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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Hospital helipads are technically "private" just as the ambulance =
parking=20
area is a "private" parking area. Theoretically that means that you =
should=20
have permission from the owner to land. Most hospitals I'm familiar =
with=20
don't push that because it wouldn't play well in the press. So they=20
sometimes come up with guidelines that only their aircraft can meet.
It's probably worth asking for the helipad design specifications. That=20
should give you an objective guide to what can and cannot land on the =
pad. =20
Then at least you can deal with facts.
Dave Thomson
David P. Thomson, MS, MD, FACEP
Associate Professor
Director, Transport Medicine
Medical Director, Telemedicine
Department of Emergency Medicine
Upstate Medical University
Syracuse, NY 13210
315.464.6219 (voice)
315.464.6220 (fax)
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<HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" =
FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Hospital helipads are technically "private" =
just as the ambulance parking area is a "private" parking area. =
Theoretically that means that you should have permission from the owner =
to land. Most hospitals I'm familiar with don't push that because =
it wouldn't play well in the press. So they sometimes come up with =
guidelines that only their aircraft can meet.<BR>
<BR>
It's probably worth asking for the helipad design specifications. =
That should give you an objective guide to what can and cannot land on =
the pad. Then at least you can deal with facts.<BR>
<BR>
Dave Thomson<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
David P. Thomson, MS, MD, FACEP<BR>
Associate Professor<BR>
Director, Transport Medicine<BR>
Medical Director, Telemedicine<BR>
Department of Emergency Medicine<BR>
Upstate Medical University<BR>
Syracuse, NY 13210<BR>
315.464.6219 (voice)<BR>
315.464.6220 (fax)</FONT></HTML>
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Message: 28
Subject: RE: Off Site Landings
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:58:26 -0500
From: "Summers, David" <David.Summers@tenethealth.com>
To: <flightmed@flightweb.com>
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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Dr Thomson's advice will be the best you will get.
There may be more than meets the eye!
=3D20
David Summers RN, etc
Jupiter FL
-----Original Message-----
From: Helodoc@aol.com [mailto:Helodoc@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 2:51 PM
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Subject: Re: Off Site Landings
Hospital helipads are technically "private" just as the ambulance =3D
parking area is a "private" parking area. Theoretically that means that =
=3D
you should have permission from the owner to land. Most hospitals I'm =
=3D
familiar with don't push that because it wouldn't play well in the =3D
press. So they sometimes come up with guidelines that only their =3D
aircraft can meet.
It's probably worth asking for the helipad design specifications. That =
=3D
should give you an objective guide to what can and cannot land on the =
=3D
pad. Then at least you can deal with facts.
Dave Thomson
David P. Thomson, MS, MD, FACEP
Associate Professor
Director, Transport Medicine
Medical Director, Telemedicine
Department of Emergency Medicine
Upstate Medical University
Syracuse, NY 13210
315.464.6219 (voice)
315.464.6220 (fax)=3D20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D3D939555719-26112002><FONT face=3D3DArial =
color=3D3D#0000ff =3D
size=3D3D2>Dr=3D20
Thomson's advice will be the best you will get.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D3D939555719-26112002><FONT face=3D3DArial =
color=3D3D#0000ff =3D
size=3D3D2>There=3D20
may be more than meets the eye!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D3D939555719-26112002><FONT face=3D3DArial =
color=3D3D#0000ff =3D
size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D3D939555719-26112002><FONT face=3D3DArial =
color=3D3D#0000ff =3D
size=3D3D2>David=3D20
Summers RN, etc</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D3D939555719-26112002><FONT face=3D3DArial =
color=3D3D#0000ff =3D
size=3D3D2>Jupiter FL</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV class=3D3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3D3Dltr align=3D3Dleft><FONT =
=3D
face=3D3DTahoma=3D20
size=3D3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
Helodoc@aol.com=3D20
[mailto:Helodoc@aol.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 26, 2002 =
=3D
2:51=3D20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> flightmed@flightweb.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Off =
=3D
Site=3D20
Landings<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT =3D
lang=3D3D0=3D20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">Hospital helipads are =
=3D
technically=3D20
"private" just as the ambulance parking area is a "private" =
parking=3D20
area. Theoretically that means that you should have permission =
=3D
from the=3D20
owner to land. Most hospitals I'm familiar with don't push that =
=3D
because=3D20
it wouldn't play well in the press. So they sometimes come up =
=3D
with=3D20
guidelines that only their aircraft can meet.<BR><BR>It's probably =3D
worth=3D20
asking for the helipad design specifications. That should give =
=3D
you an=3D20
objective guide to what can and cannot land on the pad. Then at =
=3D
least=3D20
you can deal with facts.<BR><BR>Dave Thomson<BR><BR><BR>David P. =3D
Thomson, MS,=3D20
MD, FACEP<BR>Associate Professor<BR>Director, Transport =3D
Medicine<BR>Medical=3D20
Director, Telemedicine<BR>Department of Emergency Medicine<BR>Upstate =
=3D
Medical=3D20
University<BR>Syracuse, NY 13210<BR>315.464.6219 =3D
(voice)<BR>315.464.6220=3D20
(fax)</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Message: 29
From: MarciaCase@aol.com
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 17:01:07 EST
Subject: Re: Off Site Landings
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
It is interesting that Mr. Eric Niegelberg notes: "As a public service =
agency=20
they [police]can land anyplace they want, this is convenient when we fly =
into=20
NYC Central Park as only the Police can land in the park". =20
Our agency does occasssionally fly critically ill patients into NYC, =
since we=20
are not a police agency but a public benefit corporation (once upon a =
time=20
known as a county hospital), we are not allowed to land in Central Park. =
=20
Because politics is more important than critically ill patients in NYC, =
and=20
the NYC police control who lands and who does not, in NYC non helipad =
space,=20
patients' out of hospital time is increased significantly! =20
Nonpolice medevacs are forced to land at one of 2 helipads in Manhattan, =
East=20
34th or West 30th. Many NYC hospitals are at long distances from these =
pads.=20
So the patients are forced to take one more lengthy ambulance ride to =
get to=20
their destinations. Out of hospital time increases and so does the risk =
of a=20
unstable patient dying before arrival. =20
NYC Medical Control Physicians should be allowed to have input in the=20
occassional decision (for a nonpolice medevac) to use a park for a =
critical=20
patient. Roof top helipads are not allowed in NYC, due to a crash on =
the=20
PanAm building some 20 odd years ago. Honestly, it is safer to simply =
load a=20
patient, once into an ambulance and drive to the hospital, than to have =
the=20
potential of two ambulance load and offloads and a medevac load and =
unload. =20
If patients care was placed first, surely the decisions would be =
different. =20
Some of the finest health care in the world is available in NYC you just =
have=20
to drive over pot holes, and get caught in traffic jams to get =
there..... =20
Marcia Case, RN EMT-P
STAT Flight=20
Valhalla, NY =20
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Message: 30
From: Helodoc@aol.com
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 20:41:02 EST
Subject: Re: Off Site Landings
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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Helicopters seem to have a bad name in NYC. There has been a lot =
written=20
that the residents of Manhattan don't like them because of their noise. =
I=20
can't imagine they make enough noise to be heard over the baseline noise =
in=20
Manhattan, but that has been the argument.
I suppose that the only way this will change is if a prominent person in =
Westchester needs to get into Manhattan FAST, and dies in traffic. It's =
unfortunate, but that seems to often be the way change happens.
Dave Thomson
Syracuse (that's 250 miles from Manhattan) NY
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FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Helicopters seem to have a bad name in =
NYC. There has been a lot written that the residents of Manhattan =
don't like them because of their noise. I can't imagine they make =
enough noise to be heard over the baseline noise in Manhattan, but that =
has been the argument.<BR>
<BR>
I suppose that the only way this will change is if a prominent person in =
Westchester needs to get into Manhattan FAST, and dies in traffic. =
It's unfortunate, but that seems to often be the way change happens.<BR>
<BR>
Dave Thomson<BR>
Syracuse (that's 250 miles from Manhattan) NY</FONT></HTML>
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Message: 31
From: "Mr. Clancy" <helicoptermedic@hotmail.com>
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Subject: Re: ATLS BOOK WANTED
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 23:20:57 -0500
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
I'M IN NEED OF A CURRENT ATLS BOOK. IF YOU COULD GET ME ONE, PLEASE SEND =
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Message: 32
Subject: RE: Off Site Landings / NYC
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 08:49:29 -0900
From: "Mark Frederick" <Mark.Frederick@north-slope.org>
To: <flightmed@flightweb.com>
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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another possible aspect of the issue is that NYC doesn't really use it's =
=3D
aviation assets for medical purposes. the times they do are very much =
=3D
exceptions to the normal order of things. (ex: to fly a critical burn =
=3D
from Rockaway to Cornell Med Center in Manhattan during rush hour (and =
=3D
guess what- they flew to one of the east side heliports...)) with =3D
trauma centers literally within a ten minute drive of almost everywhere =
=3D
in NYC, use of a helicopter would be pointless. so they are used for =
=3D
things such as law enforcement, water rescue etc. =3D20
=3D20
therefore, since the people who run things don't see a need, they don't =
=3D
act.
=3D20
Mark Frederick PA-C,
mark.frederick@north-slope.org=3D20
http://www.north-slope.org <http://www.north-slope.org/> =3D20
http://www.weather.com/weather/local/99723=3D20
http://www.rposs.com/nsbsar/home.htm=3D20
907-852-0307=3D20
-----Original Message-----
From: Helodoc@aol.com [mailto:Helodoc@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:41 PM
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Subject: Re: Off Site Landings
Helicopters seem to have a bad name in NYC. There has been a lot =3D
written that the residents of Manhattan don't like them because of their =
=3D
noise. I can't imagine they make enough noise to be heard over the =3D
baseline noise in Manhattan, but that has been the argument.
I suppose that the only way this will change is if a prominent person in =
=3D
Westchester needs to get into Manhattan FAST, and dies in traffic. It's =
=3D
unfortunate, but that seems to often be the way change happens.
Dave Thomson
Syracuse (that's 250 miles from Manhattan) NY=3D20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D#0000ff size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20
class=3D3D061483817-27112002>another possible aspect of the issue is =
that =3D
NYC=3D20
doesn't really use it's aviation assets for medical purposes. =
=3D
the=3D20
times they do are very much exceptions to the normal order of =3D
things. (ex:=3D20
to fly a critical burn from Rockaway to Cornell Med Center in Manhattan =
=3D
during=3D20
rush hour (and guess what- they flew to one of the east side =3D
heliports...))=3D20
with trauma centers literally within a ten minute drive of =
almost=3D20
everywhere in NYC, use of a helicopter would be pointless. so they =
=3D
are=3D20
used for things such as law enforcement, water rescue etc. =3D20
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D#0000ff size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20
class=3D3D061483817-27112002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D#0000ff size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20
class=3D3D061483817-27112002>therefore, since the people who run things =
=3D
don't see a=3D20
need, they don't act.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D#0000ff size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20
class=3D3D061483817-27112002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<P><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Mark Frederick PA-C,</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><A=3D20
href=3D3D"mailto:mark.frederick@north-slope.org";>mark.frederick@north-slo=
pe=3D
.org</A></FONT>=3D20
<BR><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><A =
href=3D3D"http://www.north-slope.org/"=3D20
target=3D3D_blank>http://www.north-slope.org</A></FONT> <BR><FONT =3D
face=3D3DArial=3D20
size=3D3D2><A href=3D3D"http://www.weather.com/weather/local/99723"=3D20
target=3D3D_blank>http://www.weather.com/weather/local/99723</A></FONT> =
=3D
<BR><FONT=3D20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><A =
href=3D3D"http://www.rposs.com/nsbsar/home.htm"=3D20
target=3D3D_blank>http://www.rposs.com/nsbsar/home.htm</A></FONT> =3D
<BR><FONT=3D20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>907-852-0307<B></B></FONT><B></B> </P>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV class=3D3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3D3Dltr align=3D3Dleft><FONT =
=3D
face=3D3DTahoma=3D20
size=3D3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
Helodoc@aol.com=3D20
[mailto:Helodoc@aol.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 26, 2002 =
=3D
4:41=3D20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> flightmed@flightweb.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Off =
=3D
Site=3D20
Landings<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT =3D
lang=3D3D0=3D20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">Helicopters seem to =
have a =3D
bad name in=3D20
NYC. There has been a lot written that the residents of =3D
Manhattan don't=3D20
like them because of their noise. I can't imagine they make =3D
enough noise=3D20
to be heard over the baseline noise in Manhattan, but that has been =
=3D
the=3D20
argument.<BR><BR>I suppose that the only way this will change is if =
a=3D20
prominent person in Westchester needs to get into Manhattan FAST, and =
=3D
dies in=3D20
traffic. It's unfortunate, but that seems to often be the way =
=3D
change=3D20
happens.<BR><BR>Dave Thomson<BR>Syracuse (that's 250 miles from =3D
Manhattan)=3D20
NY</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Message: 33
From: MarciaCase@aol.com
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:24:32 EST
Subject: Re: Off Site Landings / NYC
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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It is a shame really that interfacility unstable patients are not =
considered=20
for emergency LZ's. Police should allow emergency LZ's when requested =
by=20
non-PD medevacs, such as critical Neonates, IABP's and LVADs and as you=20
mentioned burns. Why are they in charge of these decisions? It is a =
true=20
disservice to the patient and the public tax payer, when they are denied =
LZ=20
rights near a hospital. I think more than merely a wealthy person=20
decompensating in transport, it would take an act of the mayor to change =
these lousy policies.=20
Marcia Case, RN, EMT-P
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FACE=3D"Arial Narrow" LANG=3D"0">It is a shame really that interfacility =
unstable patients are not considered for emergency LZ's. Police =
should allow emergency LZ's when requested by non-PD medevacs, such as =
critical Neonates, IABP's and LVADs and as you mentioned burns. =
Why are they in charge of these decisions? It is a true disservice =
to the patient and the public tax payer, when they are denied LZ rights =
near a hospital. I think more than merely a wealthy person =
decompensating in transport, it would take an act of the mayor to change =
these lousy policies. <BR>
<BR>
Marcia Case, RN, EMT-P<BR>
<BR>
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Message: 34
From: "RONALD JOHNSON" <rjohnson_fn@msn.com>
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Subject: Re: Off Site Landings / NYC
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 23:45:41 +0000
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
I guess the only way that situation will get changed is the way lots of=20
politically motivated things get changed. A politicians family member is =
going to have to die or have a severe outcome related to that policy.
RJ
>From: MarciaCase@aol.com
>Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
>To: flightmed@flightweb.com
>Subject: Re: Off Site Landings / NYC
>Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:24:32 EST
>
>It is a shame really that interfacility unstable patients are not=20
>considered
>for emergency LZ's. Police should allow emergency LZ's when requested =
by
>non-PD medevacs, such as critical Neonates, IABP's and LVADs and as you
>mentioned burns. Why are they in charge of these decisions? It is a =
true
>disservice to the patient and the public tax payer, when they are =
denied LZ
>rights near a hospital. I think more than merely a wealthy person
>decompensating in transport, it would take an act of the mayor to =
change
>these lousy policies.
>
>Marcia Case, RN, EMT-P
>
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Message: 35
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 18:49:20 -0500
From: Nrempt@aol.com
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Subject: Re: Off Site Landings / NYC
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
In everything, there is never a problem until it
has a direct impact on you.
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Message: 36
From: "Richard Bilger" <rbilger@merginet.com>
To: "Air Medical" <flightmed@flightweb.com>
Subject: MERGINET.News: December 3rd Edition Now Online!
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 07:42:31 -0600
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
We're pleased to bring you the latest additions to
MERGINET.News (December 2002 Vol. 7, No. 12).
You can view this issue online at:
http://www.MERGINET.com/emsnewstocs/current.shtml/
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>From the Editors
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Welcome to the holiday season, and MERGINET's first December release of
editorial material, now online. Please check your "worldwide website for
emergency responders" at www.MERGINET.com to see what's up!
Vic & Vern are "On the Scene" this month with a bizarre holiday =
emergency
story, just for fun. Watch out for their outrageous mnemonics, which =
always
outdo any respectable EMS text! Anyone living where colleges or =
universities
are scarce will want to read Tonya Schafer's profile of the American =
College
of Prehospital Medicine, which recently celebrated its 11th anniversary.
This month, we welcome our newest columnist: Dave Williams, from Austin,
Texas, who will be writing a management column for MERGINET. His =
kick-off
column deals with peer reviews. Welcome, Dave! In Education Station, Law
Bytes writers Doug Wolfberg and Steve Wirth explore the confidentiality
concerns surrounding verbal and radio communications.
In our In Touch area, readers will find some compelling reading. "One =
Man's
Race" faces the scary dilemma of dealing with people combating =
borderline
personality disorder. The story of one family's tragedy might help EMS
providers understand this unique group of patients. Kevin High returns =
with
a compelling essay on something any veteran understands; it's titled =
"That
Smell." Straight Talk takes a look at the holidays from a unique
perspective; called "The Dreaded," it also serves as our collaborative =
piece
with EMS Magazine this month.
Reviews this time around come from Dick Clinchy, who tells us about Lead
Lok, a new electrode-holding device, and from Mike Taigman, who steers =
us to
an interesting article about negotiating that appeared in the Harvard
Business Review and is available online. And Tom Scott-steady as ever =
with
the HIPPA information-takes a look at an updated compliance guide from =
Page,
Wolfberg and Wirth, LLC, a national law firm concentrating in the EMS,
ambulance, and medical transportation industry.
In every season, we're happy to hear from our readers from all over the
planet. We reply to everyone who writes. Send email to publisher Richard
Bilger at rbilger@merginet.com or to Kate at editor@merginet.com.
Welcome to December 2002!
Kate Dernocoeur, Editor
Laura Bennett-Kimble, Managing Editor
New in this issue!
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On the Scene
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>> Runnin' Red: Bizarre Holiday Emergencies
by Vic & Vern
And you thought that you had the strangest stories to tell about your
holiday calls.
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/368_Vic_&_Vern_20020712.shtml
>> Profile: A Look at the American College of Prehospital Medicine
by Tonya Schafer
The American College of Prehospital Medicine has been offering distance
learning to the emergency medical services community since 1991. Have =
you
visited its online campus?
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/366_Tonya_Schafer_20020712.shtml
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In Touch
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>> In Her Own Words: Exposing an Expertly Hidden Disorder
by Cathy Strough
Have you ever responded to an emergency medical call where borderline
personality disorder was a contributing factor? You may have, and not =
known
it.
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/369_Cathy_Strough_20020712.shtml
>> That Smell
by Kevin High
The job can stink, and we're not talking about its benefits or holiday
schedules. We're talking about the smells that permeate emergency =
medical
calls.
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/367_Kevin_High_20020712.shtml
>> Straight Talk 67: The Dreaded
by Kate Dernocoeur
Overwhelmed by the seasonal holidays? You're not alone. Read on for a =
few
tips that can help you enjoy the magic of the season.
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/364_Kate_Dernocoeur_20020712.shtml
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Education Station
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>> Law Bytes: Confidentiality Concerns and Communications
by Doug Wolfberg and Steve Wirth
We explore the confidentiality concerns surrounding verbal and radio
communications as they relate to the federal HIPAA privacy regulations.
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/365_Doug_Wolfberg_20020712.shtml
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Reviewers Roundup
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>> Negotiating with Desperation
by Mike Taigman
Our book reviewer temporarily puts his books aside to review an article
about hostage negotiation in the October 2002 edition of the Harvard
Business Review.
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/373_Mike_Taigman_20020712.shtml
>> Reviewing a New Guide to HIPAA Compliance
by Tom Scott
Our Management Matters columnist reviews the second edition of The =
Ambulance
Service Guide to HIPAA Compliance from Page, Wolfberg and Wirth, LLC.
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/370_Tom_Scott_20020712.shtml
>> EMS TOYS: Lead-Lok-Another Player in the ECG Electrode Marketplace
by Dick Clinchy
Frustrated by ECG lead wires disconnecting? There may be a solution.
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/372_Dick_Clinchy_20020712.shtml
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Management Matters
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>> Clinical Peer Reviews
by Dave Williams
Like an informal court, a peer review can be a good approach when you =
need
to examine the aftermath of a call gone wrong.
http://www.merginet.com/emsnewsfiles/371_Dave_Williams_20020712.shtml
More online!
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MERGINET.News Online!
Click here: http://www.MERGINET.com/emsnewstocs/current.shtml/
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MERGINET is a service designed to provide resources, news, education and
fun to the all in EMS, Fire, Rescue and Emergency Medicine. Updated =
daily.
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MERGINET.com
http://www.MERGINET.com
mailto:Editor@MERGINET.com
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Message: 37
From: Uncferret@aol.com
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:00:33 EST
Subject: Chief Flight Nurse/Paramedic Job Description
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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Hi All.
I am looking for job descriptions for Chief Flight Nurse/Paramedic. =
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respond to my personal address.
Thanks
Uncferret@aol.com
Tracey Stover
RN, etc.....
"Having once decided to achieve a certain task, achieve it at all costs =
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tedium and distaste. The gain in self-confidence of having =
accomplished a=20
tiresome labor is immense."
Arnold Bennett
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Hi All.<BR>
<BR>
I am looking for job descriptions for Chief Flight =
Nurse/Paramedic. Please respond to my personal address.<BR>
<BR>
Thanks<BR>
<BR>
Uncferret@aol.com<BR>
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Stover<BR>
RN, etc.....<BR>
"Having once decided to achieve a certain task, achieve it at all costs =
of tedium and distaste. The gain in self-confidence of =
having accomplished a tiresome labor is immense."<BR>
Arnold Bennett<BR>
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Message: 38
From: Wildmedic17@aol.com
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:30:02 EST
Subject: Flight Physiology=20
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
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Hi all - I've got a question for those of you who are very=20
experienced in the realm of fixed wing transport: Exactly how do you =
apply=20
the principles of flight physiology to your patient assessment and=20
management?
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I'm quite familiar with basic flight physiology; the gas laws, =
the=20
stressors of flight, etc....but what I mean is, how do you use that =
info?=20
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My experience is almost exclusively with low-altitude helicopter=20
transport - where the effects of changing altitude aren't much of a =
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so I'm just curious to learn what little tricks and assessment =
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<HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" =
FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> Hi all - I've got =
a question for those of you who are very experienced in the realm of =
fixed wing transport: Exactly<I> how</I> do you apply the principles of =
flight physiology to your patient assessment and management?<BR>
<BR>
I'm quite familiar with basic =
flight physiology; the gas laws, the stressors of flight, etc....but =
what I mean is, <I>how do you use that info? <BR>
</I> <BR>
My experience is almost exclusively =
with low-altitude helicopter transport - where the effects of changing =
altitude aren't much of a factor - so I'm just curious to learn what =
little tricks and assessment techniques you airplane types routinely use =
during patient preparation and transport. Thanks! <BR>
<BR>
-Allan &=
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