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Re: Turf battles



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>From: "Joel Hochhalter"
>Reply-To: flightmed@flightweb.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: Turf battles
>Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 11:26:55 -0700
>
>I see and hear (within our service and others) the discussions that
>occur on this site daily. Air transport is truly a unique profession,
>Ground EMS is a unique profession, critical care, hospital or transport,
>is a unique profession. Making administration, family etc understand is
>very difficult but it does not grind to a halt the job YOU do. With
>that in mind, look at the person next to you, be it in an airplane,
>helicopter, ICU, ER, or ground ambulance. Alphabet soup aside your
>partner is your back-up as you are for them. Is there a level of trust,
>is there a level of respect, do you look at their face or their
>credentials on the name tag. Do you see that person for the quality and
>talent they bring to your team and this profession or do you see the
>alphabet soup following their name. Does anyone of us know it all or
>have the answers to all the different and ugly things we see daily.
>When your partner is having a difficult time with a problematic patient
>do you sit back and watch, say jeez, if you were only as good as I, if
>you only had my credentials, if you just listened to me you would not be
>in the situation you are in now; or do you jump in and give a helping
>hand, work together, or do you stand your ground and say "move aside and
>let the expert handle this one". If that is your attitude,
>well.....enough said. I have included a Code of Ethics adopted by our
>FLIGHT TEAM below. jdh
>
>
>
>· BE SAFE
>
>· DO WHAT IS BEST FOR YOUR PATIENT
>
>· DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CRITICAL CARE TRANSPORT SYSTEM
>
>· BE HONEST
>
>· RESPECT AND HELP OTHERS
>
>· WORK HARD
>
>· HAVE FUN
>
>· ADVANCE YOUR PROFESSION AND YOURSELF
>
>· WORK FOR FAIR COMPENSATION
>
>· DOCUMENT YOUR EFFORTS TO HELP YOUR PATIENT, YOURSELF AND YOUR
>PROFESSION
>
>· BE COOPERATIVE
>
>· BEHAVE PROPERLY
>
>
>
> >>> jim.kendrick@worldnet.att.net 04/04/02 10:45AM >>>
>Lisa, Steve
>
>Amen
>
>Jim Kendrick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lisa Heinz
> To: flightmed@flightweb.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:11 AM
> Subject: Re: Turf battles
>
>
> that's what being a flight TEAM is all about!!
>
>
>
> SUllrich@att.net wrote:
>
> The debate that arises from time to time on the web
> helps to exemplify the great thing about our flight
> jobs. No matter what experience or background you bring
> to this job, you are now doing a job that is different
> from any job you've held prior and you are exposed to
> knew things everyday. You also have the opportunity to
> work with a team comprised of people from many different
> areas of expertise. I would also add that with proper
> flight training and a few flights under your belt, the
> difference between you and your partner's background
> should be invisible when caring for a patient. It is
> everyone's responsibility to share the knowledge they
> bring to this job and learn everything they can in areas
> that they are not as strong. If I'm ever lying on the
> cot I don't care what your background is along as
> everyone works together and knows what to do. This is
> what makes this job fantastic.
>
> Steve Ullrich
> > >>When are these RIDICULOUS battles going to end?
> >
> > >>All these ongoing disagreements do is to further degrade our
>professions
> > collectively.
> >
> > Please forgive me but I disagree. I don't see these discussions
>as arguements
> > but more so as debates. Debates are utilized to provide a forum
>for both sides
> > of the story to be heard and considered. I don't see how you can
>call open
> > communication about a known problem "rediculous". The RN vs.
>Paramedic battle
> > has waged for years and will continue as long as we try to sweep
>it under the
> > carpet and act like it's not there. Further more, having this
>rivalry
> > smoldering in the back ground will do more to degrade our
>profession then openly
> > addressing the issue.
> >
> > I have a uique perspective on this debat because my father is a
>BSN, CFRN.
> > Because of our relationship I have been fortunate to be able to
>discuss this
> > issue with him at great lengths with out the "ego trips" that
>normally appear in
> > such discussion.
> >
> > Flight medicine and crtical care transports didn't create this
>conflict it just
> > magnifies it. In this profession RN's and medics work together in
>a way that is
> > rarely experienced in any other aspect of health care. If we are
>honest with
> > ourselves, we can all say that we gained respect for the opposite
>profession
> > after flying with them for a while. We gain this respect because
>we didn't
> > have it to begin with. A problem that goes back to our past
>experiences working
> > in ER's or on ambulances. Because of this, we should utilize our
>relationship
> > to address this issue, dispell the myth's and educate our
>college's in the
> > Hospitals and Ambulances so that future flight teams wont have to
>follow in our
> > footsteps and have this same conversation 10 years from now.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > Wesley Copeland
> >
>
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