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RE: intubation sedation and analgesia



Brent:
 
I absolutely agree with the previous posts on this subject. We encourage our crewmembers to administer pain medication, even though we've had to run interference with some receiving physicians who don't yet agree with recent research that seems to refute old doctrine. We use primarily fentanyl, for it's shorter duration and lack of hemodynamic side effects. As one other poster stated, we aim for making the pain tolerable without altering mental status. Mental status is documented before and after meds, and this is communicated in patient report. We do also try to remind our folks that paralyzed patients hurt too!
 
I'd be more than happy to speak with any medical director on this subject if it would help.
 
Laurie Romig, MD
Bayflite, St. Pete, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: flightmed-admin@flightweb.com [mailto:flightmed-admin@flightweb.com]On Behalf Of BRENT M GRADY
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 11:37 AM
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Subject: intubation sedation and analgesia

Question for the group. I recently attended a conference and spoke to a flight RN from another program regarding sedation and analgesia for intubated and non intubated patients. I was very surprised to learn that in her program they are not allowed to give analgesia to their intubated patients just sedation. The scenario she gave me was a MVC large amount of trauma -head face chest. RSI intubation and on the flight home with stable vitals no pain meds. They also don't give pain meds to unintubated  trauma patients. I was wondering where the rest of you stand on this with your programs. I asked if she would mind if I listed this post and she was OK with it as long as no names were involved. We routinely give pain meds to anybody in pain regardless of the disease at hand. I do realize the trauma team likes a good neuro assessment but pain is pain. Also I checked with numerous anesthesia practitioners who all stated that they give narcotics as well as sedation to any intubated patient. 
 
                                                       Thanks for your time
                                                       Brent

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