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RE: intubation sedation and analgesia



In our program, we are strongly encouraged to assess, medicate and document pain issues for our patients.  My own personal opinion is that no one should suffer needlessly during transport.  I do not expect to take a patient's pain away completely, but I strive to mitigate the pain to a tolerable level for the patient without compromising vital signs, responsiveness or skewing the examination/evaluation of the patient upon arrival at the receiving facility.  Any patient who is sedated/paralyzed chemically cannot tell you of the pain they are experiencing.  However, the feeling of pain is there and affects their physiologic status.  I saw this first hand years ago with a head injured, periodically combative patient who had femur/ankle fractures.  After RSI procedure, chemical sedation and paralysis, the patient's heart rate remained in the 120's, blood pressure elevated, saturations mid 90's.  Wasn't too happy with vital signs, racked my brain to figure out why things were elevated, then dawned on me how painful fractures can be.  So gave the patient a few doses of morphine.  Magically, heart rate down to 90's, blood pressure down to 140's systolically, sats up to 100%. Less stress to the patient's system when we recognize and treat pain response in the trauma patient.
 
Jo Pufahl, RN, CFRN LifeFlight, Duluth, MN
-----Original Message-----
From: BRENT M GRADY [mailto:NUKA@prodigy.net]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:37 AM
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Subject: intubation sedation and analgesia

Question for the group. I recently attended a conference and spoke to a flight RN from another program regarding sedation and analgesia for intubated and non intubated patients. I was very surprised to learn that in her program they are not allowed to give analgesia to their intubated patients just sedation. The scenario she gave me was a MVC large amount of trauma -head face chest. RSI intubation and on the flight home with stable vitals no pain meds. They also don't give pain meds to unintubated  trauma patients. I was wondering where the rest of you stand on this with your programs. I asked if she would mind if I listed this post and she was OK with it as long as no names were involved. We routinely give pain meds to anybody in pain regardless of the disease at hand. I do realize the trauma team likes a good neuro assessment but pain is pain. Also I checked with numerous anesthesia practitioners who all stated that they give narcotics as well as sedation to any intubated patient. 
 
                                                       Thanks for your time
                                                       Brent

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