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Re: Consents



Well, by law you must obtain consent from every patient.  Lisa must not be too familiar with EMS.  Lisa is correct in her statement regarding "implied consent" however, for your own protection a consent form still needs to be completed with the statement "Unable to sign" and then signed and dated by yourself and your partner or another witness.  It is also important to  document why the patient was unable to sign, what type of consent you are treating the patient under (implied consent, verbal consent, consent of family member, etc")  Their is no need to waste time on scene trying to get a consent signed but if you are able to get a signature at the receiving facility from the patient or family member get it and if not document as above.  Remember, "If it's not documented, you never did it!"
 
Wesley Copeland
LifeNet - Joplin
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Lisa Heinz
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: Consents

Why would you need a consent form for a scene patient?   I don't think I have heard of this before and I find it rather interesting.  I guess I believe that a significant motor vehicle crash in which a patient has sustained a traumatic injury (or multiple injuries) requiring air transport to the trauma center is consent enough.  If their unconscious: its implied.  If their head injured: would they understand what they may have to consent to?  If they are intoxicated:  good luck getting a consent for anything!

Will be interesting to see what others have to add......

Lisa

  Nancy Hunter <omgwafn@att.net> wrote:

Hi all,
 
Just wondering what others are doing in regards to getting consent forms (for transport) from scene patients....Are you required to get them? If so, how and when are you having patients sign them? If you are not required to get them, why?
 
Thanks
 
Nancy



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