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Barb,

We should not be writing rules to protect turf or level the playing field. We should write rules only to protect or improve patient care. Why spend thousands of dollars of tax money if there is not an improvement in patient care. Really bad if it degrades patient care as you have stated in Vegas.

 

Mark Young

Western RETAC, Colorado

 

-----Original Message-----
From: flightmed-admin@flightweb.com [mailto:flightmed-admin@flightweb.com] On Behalf Of barb murphy
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:03 PM
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Subject: RE: (no subject)

 

Talk with the folks at Valley Flight for Life in Las Vegas, they were relegated to monthly rotation by a  Fire EMS Chief who wanted to "level the playing field" when a competitor came to town.  This means for a scene flight, one helicopter may fly over the top of another, closer one parked on a helipad to satisfy some bureaucrat in county government.  May God forgive him when someone else dies because of a 30+ minute delay getting help when help is sitting 5 minutes away waiting to be called.

-----Original Message-----
From: flightmed-admin@flightweb.com [mailto:flightmed-admin@flightweb.com]On Behalf Of Mark Young
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:01 PM
To: flightmed@flightweb.com
Subject: (no subject)

John and others,

Since my posting yesterday, I have receive several e-mails about “kids dying all the time” in Denver and my basis for my comment. John seems to understand what I was referring to, but obviously others did not. Please allow me the opportunity to clarify.

My reference, although not articulated, was referring to the end of the article where callers call in for a flight and are under the impression they are getting the closest helicopter. The program that receives the call many times advertises that they will send the closest helicopter if they are not the closest or are not available. However in practice, this does not seem to be the case in most of Colorado. Some programs stack the flights until they become available and give false ETA’s, others say sorry we are not available and hang up. There are some that it depends on what day you call and who is dispatching. It does happen on a regular basis that a flight program will overfly another helicopter that is sitting and ready to go. This does happen in Denver. Unfortunately, someday someone will die, at a scene of an accident, waiting for a helicopter that was sent from farther away than the nearest helicopter. This may not be the fault of the program that sent it, it may be the system. There is no system in place for someone to call one number and get the closest. We have to “chopper shop” to find out who is where and how soon they can be here. In the mean time precious minutes go by.

There is a growing group advocating a Statewide Comm. Center to help with the problem as well as many others. There is also a growing group advocating it be written in rules that the closest be sent.

John, I do agree with your comment that it would seem that this would not be to hard to do since both Denver services are dispatched out of the same room.

For any one who felt offended and felt like I was insinuating that children die all the time in Denver, please accept my apologies. I do hope rules can be written that are in the best interest of the patient and our injured children who may not have a choice.

Mark Young, EMT-P

Western RETAC

 

Well, one would figure with both programs being dispatched out of the same

room that these kinds of things could be minimized. I guess not,

especially since CMC bailed out.

I used to work for Life Flight in Pittsburgh before I came out here.

Wanted to make sure the word got out about these situations.

John

 

Mark Young

From President Bush when asked what is taking so long to retaliate against the recent attack:

"When I take action I'm not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty
tent and hit a camel in the butt."

President of the United States, George W. Bush.


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