RE:Re: CFRN REQUIREMENTS

["Loyd Helmick" <Loyd_Helmick@mediplane.com>]

Most excellent reply!  DT has already upset your local fire district who now does not want to use your flight program services any longer.  Wat to go DT!
Loyd Helmick 


Original Message (Recieved 3/29/01 9:33:53 AM)

WOW What a beating!

Most of the points made in previous email responses to your posting are 
correct, valid and well intentioned. I too am in college pursuing a degree 
and have been able to keep a 4.0gpa, so I understand the work, commitment 
and sacrifice that has gone into your unusual accomplishment. With that 
said, lets get out our "red pen" and go to work.

Your first paragraph was well constructed and had several very good, 
relevant points.
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"I am a recent  4.0 grad ( 12/99) of a BSN program -  I do very well with test
taking".

<The fact that your graduation date is 12/99 is distressing. Having been 
out of school and in the "real world" for over a year and yet not really 
learned anything about social and professional behavior, says a lot. Your 
first important point, "I do very well with test taking" is also revealing. 
Despite the fact that test-taking could and may need to be hyphenated in 
this context, the statement itself gets more to the "meat" of the issue. 
You are a good test taker. I have 24-years experience in the medical 
profession and have seen "Very Good Test-Takers" practice and/or commit 
malpractice in the medicine profession. Ability to take a test does not 
often go hand-in-hand with ability to perform. Ability to perform is a 
combination of natural ability and common sense, personal drive, good 
judgement, and inherited intelligence along with the ability to 
successfully take tests and write papers. Any weakness in one can be 
covered for by another up to a certain point. Equally, any excellence in 
one does not necessarily totally overcome the weakness in the others.>
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"I am interested in taking the tests to become a CEN and CFRN.  I
have looked over the material and think I could easily pass the exams and
obtain certification with a little studying."

<Your second point started out harmless enough by stating your desire to 
take the CEN and CFRN exams. If you had ended with the first line, you 
probably would have been alright and would have received responses that 
were both supportive of your efforts along with (and this may have been 
what your ego was ultimately seeking) praise of your accomplishments from 
some of the best patient care professionals in the world. But, your lack of 
common sense, good judgement and maturity led you to go on and say "I have 
looked over the material and think I could easily pass the exams and obtain 
certification with a little studying." Here is where you began to get into 
trouble with the group. What your statement did was insult those who 
developed the ideas, worked out the logistics,  wrote test items, proctored 
evaluation testing, re-wrote test items, re-evaluated testing success 
rates, quantified question validity, published the test, and have 
championed its successes and acceptance. What you failed to realize was 
that many of these people are in the profession, subscribe to this listserv 
and have for the most part advanced to the professional levels that they 
are either making the direct decisions about who gets hired into this 
profession or affect these decisions with their with their sought after 
views and opinions. BAD MOVE SLICK.>
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"I have limited ER experience and have never been in a helicopter."

<This statement was unnecessary since it is self evident in the content and 
tone of your posting.>
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"The CEN and CFRN have no requirements as to experience in flight or ER - they
"suggest" 2 years. - you only have to pass the tests."

<This statement by itself would have been fine but having been made after 
the previous slap in the face of the test creators and professionals in the 
business, it became another slap in the face and lost any of the supporters 
you had in the list.>
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"If I become certified, CFRN and CEN - ( which I would have no difficulty
doing),  Would it improve my chances of getting a flight nurse position down
the line???"

<Well at least this question's wording shows that you have the killer 
instinct and ability to follow two slaps with an upper-cut on the chin. 
Once again, BAD MOVE SLICK!!>
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"D.T."

<Not signing your name to the email does at least show that you did realize 
what you were saying and how you were saying it and that you were not just 
"really stupid." A simple search using your email address should reveal 
your name so that those who do not want to work with you and thus place 
their lives and the lives of their patients in so arrogant hands, can watch 
for your name on applications coming across their desks.>

You owe those that you have tried to insult with this listserv posting, a 
very humble... crow eating...apology. Otherwise, I wish you a lot of 
success in whatever other profession or practice environment you choose to 
pursue.

Sincerely,

George P. Glessner III